Descriptive Bibliography, RBS (July 2010) - Revision history

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	''edition'': all those iterations of a text from a given composition		''edition'': all those iterations of a text from a given composition

	("work", "expression", "manifestation" -- cataloging terms that work for multiple media)		("work", "expression", "manifestation", "item" -- cataloging terms that work for multiple media)

	leaf is a binding phenomenon, not a printing phenomenon (that would be the form, which deals with pages) i.e., bibliographer's unit is the page (occupying a certain position in a form with other pages, binder's unit is the leaf		leaf is a binding phenomenon, not a printing phenomenon (that would be the form, which deals with pages) i.e., bibliographer's unit is the page (occupying a certain position in a form with other pages, binder's unit is the leaf

Wtrettien at 13:58, 30 July 2010

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	put number of unnumbered pages in italics in brackets		put number of unnumbered pages in italics in brackets

	'''ideal copy''' conforms to issue -- is simply a reference standard, not a "perfect" copy (somewhat of an oxymoron)		'''ideal copy''' conforms to issue -- is simply a reference standard, not a "perfect" copy (somewhat of an oxymoron); like an "average" copy

	basic unit that we're trying to get back to is the '''form''' -- the printing surface; e.g., take any sheets cut from one part and stuck in another, and show that in the formula		basic unit that we're trying to get back to is the '''form''' -- the printing surface; e.g., take any sheets cut from one part and stuck in another, and show that in the formula

Wtrettien at 13:47, 30 July 2010

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	Making of a book like the making of a sausage -- what cannot be in two places at once		Making of a book like the making of a sausage -- what cannot be in two places at once

	Book as an assemblage -- assemblage of assemblages; things all the way down		Book as an assemblage -- assemblage of assemblages; things all the way down -- synchronic assemblages (forms, type) and diachronic assemblages (same piece of type can occur only once in a form, but can reappear later in other forms)

	Book is ''modular'': early example of modular building		Book is ''modular'': early example of modular building
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	'''ideal copy''' conforms to issue -- is simply a reference standard, not a "perfect" copy		'''ideal copy''' conforms to issue -- is simply a reference standard, not a "perfect" copy (somewhat of an oxymoron)

	basic unit that we're trying to get back to is the '''form''' -- the printing surface; e.g., take any sheets cut from one part and stuck in another, and show that in the formula		basic unit that we're trying to get back to is the '''form''' -- the printing surface; e.g., take any sheets cut from one part and stuck in another, and show that in the formula
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	''edition'': all those iterations of a text from a given composition		''edition'': all those iterations of a text from a given composition

			("work", "expression", "manifestation" -- cataloging terms that work for multiple media)

	leaf is a binding phenomenon, not a printing phenomenon (that would be the form, which deals with pages) i.e., bibliographer's unit is the page (occupying a certain position in a form with other pages, binder's unit is the leaf		leaf is a binding phenomenon, not a printing phenomenon (that would be the form, which deals with pages) i.e., bibliographer's unit is the page (occupying a certain position in a form with other pages, binder's unit is the leaf

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	Introduction to the Principles of Descriptive Bibliography, Rare Book School (Charlottesville, VA) July 26-30; Richard Noble, David Whitesell		Introduction to the Principles of Descriptive Bibliography, Rare Book School (Charlottesville, VA) July 26-30; Richard Noble, David Whitesell

			Making of a book like the making of a sausage -- what cannot be in two places at once

			Book as an assemblage -- assemblage of assemblages; things all the way down

			Book is ''modular'': early example of modular building

			Book is fungible, but bibliography is looking for ''patterns''

			Bibliography is an attempt to reverse-engineer the book

	== Bibliography ==		== Bibliography ==

	~~book as an assemblage -- assemblage of assemblages~~

	'''pagination''': omit detailed records of routine omissions (chapter headings, etc.), because disguises actual interesting bits of omission (don't make something simple look complicated, or something complicated look simple); pagination should always come out even (foliation should ''generally'' come out even); use commas to separate sections		'''pagination''': omit detailed records of routine omissions (chapter headings, etc.), because disguises actual interesting bits of omission (don't make something simple look complicated, or something complicated look simple); pagination should always come out even (foliation should ''generally'' come out even); use commas to separate sections
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	relationship between printed formula and issue formula == analysis		relationship between printed formula and issue formula == analysis

			formula is encoding relationships; not simply enumerative practice, but analytic

	''edition'': all those iterations of a text from a given composition		''edition'': all those iterations of a text from a given composition

			leaf is a binding phenomenon, not a printing phenomenon (that would be the form, which deals with pages) i.e., bibliographer's unit is the page (occupying a certain position in a form with other pages, binder's unit is the leaf

	Greg saw collation formula as a way of reference; Bowers took this and said it was a report of a particular analysis		Greg saw collation formula as a way of reference; Bowers took this and said it was a report of a particular analysis
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	table of contents comes after pagination; important in understanding how important anomalies are in regards to the content		table of contents comes after pagination; important in understanding how important anomalies are in regards to the content

	'''quasi-facsimile transcription''': some problems: no "W" in type font; English printers soldered together two "V"s; if totally separate, write them totally separate, if not, write "W" and indicate in note; antiquarian practice now, though (why do it?)		cancellations: H^4(+/-H3); H(H3) refers to the inserted leaf; H3 refers to the cancelled original

			'''quasi-facsimile transcription''': some problems: no "W" in type font; English printers soldered together two "V"s; if totally separate, write them totally separate, if not, write "W" and indicate in note;

			antiquarian practice now, though (why do it?); can't get across white spaces or exact vertical relationships; often doesn't putll out important differences

	== Paper ==		== Paper ==

Wtrettien at 13:08, 30 July 2010

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	table of contents comes after pagination; important in understanding how important anomalies are in regards to the content		table of contents comes after pagination; important in understanding how important anomalies are in regards to the content

			'''quasi-facsimile transcription''': some problems: no "W" in type font; English printers soldered together two "V"s; if totally separate, write them totally separate, if not, write "W" and indicate in note; antiquarian practice now, though (why do it?)

	== Paper ==		== Paper ==

Wtrettien: /* Bibliography */

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Bibliography

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 == Bibliography ==
 '''pagination''': omit detailed records of routine omissions (chapter headings, etc.), because disguises actual interesting bits of omission (don't make something simple look complicated, or something complicated look simple); pagination should always come out even (foliation should ''generally'' come out even); use commas to separate sections
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 == Paper ==

Wtrettien: /* Bookbinding */

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Bookbinding

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	collational formula affected by bookbinder's decisions		collational formula affected by bookbinder's decisions

	~~'''ideal copy''' conforms to issue -- is simply a reference standard, not a "perfect" copy~~

	~~basic unit that we're trying to get back to is the '''form''' -- the printing surface; e.g., take any sheets cut from one part and stuck in another, and show that in the formula~~

	~~assume printing begins with the first page of text~~

	~~π1 A-C^2 [D]1~~

	~~or?~~

	~~π1 [=D2] A-C^2 [D]^2 (-D2)~~

Wtrettien: /* Book binding */

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Book binding

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 Tanselle, "Identification of Typefaces" -- RBS exit reading list T50
-== Book binding ==
+== Bookbinding ==
 until recently, tend to study bookbinding through decoration; in the last generation, others beginning to study the structure
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 cancelled leaves: can either leave stub on cancelled leaf, or the leaf to pasted to; sometimes hard to determine where the stub is

Wtrettien: /* Paper */

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Paper

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	* deckle edges, cut edges		* deckle edges, cut edges

	=== Printing ===		== Printing ==

	type is not an abstraction, not the printed impression, but an object - ''something you pick up in your hand''		type is not an abstraction, not the printed impression, but an object - ''something you pick up in your hand''

Wtrettien at 13:11, 29 July 2010

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	Tanselle, "Identification of Typefaces" -- RBS exit reading list T50		Tanselle, "Identification of Typefaces" -- RBS exit reading list T50

			== Book binding ==

			until recently, tend to study bookbinding through decoration; in the last generation, others beginning to study the structure

			David Pearson -- item B25 on exit reading list

			bookbinding trade: low status, modest profits

			in earlier period, more likely for folios to be nested; by 18c, more common for folios to be in 2s, and begin to see 2-on and 3-on sewing, in which several gatherings were sewed alternatively

			can find trade/retail and custom/bespoke bindings at any end of the spectrum

			printers try print most efficiently; paper most expensive thing that went into the book

			printer furnishes the bookbinder with a kit of sheets, as well as instructions for binding; instructions had to be understood in multiple languages, so signature marks developed

			start to see signature marks in 1470s (see them earlier, but often by hand)

			manuscripts also have marks indicating binding structure

			register: printer's explicit statement of what constituted the book -- how sheets are signed and arranged (16c); persisted longest in Venice; expanded signatures, may have been legal document showing book to be "collated and perfect" (see workbook pg. 20)

			if printer doesn't tell bookbinder where the plates go, up to the bookbinder to determine it

			cancelled leaves: can either leave stub on cancelled leaf, or the leaf to pasted to; sometimes hard to determine where the stub is